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BCC Meeting 4-7-09

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5 C.        ENGINEERING & PUBLIC WORKS

1.         Staff requests Board direction: regarding potential road paving projects in the Palm Beach Ranchettes, particularly Fargo Avenue, Pancho/El Paso and Arrowhead Drive. SUMMARY:  The Board has heard from one (1) resident, Mr. Schaller, previously relating to the paving of Fargo Avenue.  If the Board wishes to proceed with the project, a funding source and who should be assessed for the project must be addressed.  Mr. Schaller has never specifically discussed with the Board who should pay for the improvement to Fargo, but it is staff’s understanding that he would like the Board to assess 100% of the project cost to 180 properties (of the 450 in the Ranchettes) and not just assess the 12 properties that access Fargo.  The majority of the 14 residents along Pancho and El Paso also want the Board to find money to pay for their ½ mile of road paving – and they would prefer to limit their contributions to the amount most recently assessed in the neighborhood.  They have expressed frustration that the County might fund Fargo ahead of their roads since they had a standard County accepted petition since 2004, while Fargo has never produced a County petition.  The residents along a one mile section of Arrowhead have recently also expressed interest for the County to pave their road.  Staff believes that approximately $2 million would be required for these three projects.  However, the MSTU program monies are already fully committed over the next 3-4 years and there are not sufficient funds to add any new projects to the program.  The ten (10) projects in the MSTU program are expected to occur over the next few years as money becomes available to fund them.  Staff strongly recommends that if additional funds are provided to the program that the existing projects be advanced and any new projects such as these in the Ranchettes would move to the back of the program. Countywide (MRE)

http://www.pbcgov.com/publicaffairs/video/2009/04-07-09bcc_am.ram

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April 7, 2009

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From: valikas@comcast.net [mailto:valikas@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:53 AM
To: George Webb; Michael Marquis; Addie Greene; aaronson@pbcgov.org; Jeff Koons; Jess Santamaria; Karen Marcus; Shelley Vana; Steven Abrams
Subject: TODAY’S MEETING RE: FARGO RD

Good morning-

I am responding to the notice sent to homeowners that reside in Palm Beach Ranchettes west of Frontier on El Paso Drive.

I am not in favor of El Paso residents paying for the pavement of Fargo Road. Since the pavement of El Paso, traffic has increased with residents from Fargo driving on El Paso. I do not recall the County imposing any fees or asking them to absorb any costs for driving on El Paso and they are enjoying the convenience of a road we are paying for.

I reside in the home located at the corner of Frontier and El Paso Roads (9023 El Paso Drive) immediately accross from the bridge leading to Discovery Key Elementary. I have absolutely never seen cars backed up to Fargo Rd. If anyone from your office has been out there before or after school, it would take at a minimum 50+ cars to back up from Frontier to Fargo on El Paso and for as many years as the school has been opened this has never occurred. Even with the guard rail up, there is never a back up to Fargo. I know this because they all park along side my home on Frontier, drop off their kids off at the bridge, or are now driving over to drop off their kids in the car loop at Discovery Key. At 7:45am on Monday morning there were only 2 cars outside.

In my opinion the condition of Fargo Road is an inconvenience to the residents of that road, not El Paso residents. We have already done our job in attending meetings, petitioning, and now paying for the pavement of El Paso road and it logically does not make any sense for us to pay for any further pavements. Fargo road is considered a “backroad” and would not be used by many.

Thank you,

Haimattie Shivcharran

April 6, 2009

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From: l z [mailto:alizafl@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:11 PM
To: BCC-All Commissioners
Subject: 5C-1 Palm Beach Ranchettes

Dear Commissionars:

I have read your agenda for the meeting on March 7, and am appalled that the county would not plan better. The idea that those who petitioned earler to get their road paved were able to have it funded 50% by the county and moving forward the residents would be 100% responsible for any new paved roads. The county needs to step up and take responsibility for improvements in their county that resident pay taxes for.

Additionally, how can the county in good conscience plan to charge citizens on Arrowhead $35,000 for guardrails and road adjacent to a canal that belongs to the county and our neighbors on El Paso were only assessed $7,500 for same work on their road.

It is unfair and unheard of that they have the same conditions and were only charged $7,500 doesn’t make sense.

The county has created a mess in the neighborhood with some streets paved and leading to a dirt road. Also, now that only a few roads are dirt, off road vehicles and kids in trucks find their way to those roads increasing the traffic on these roads and damaging them even further.

The same consideration that was used to pay for the previous roads should be applied to the remaining streets that need to be paved in order to make our neighborhood whole.

One last question: WHO OWNS ARROWHEAD? AND HOW CAN WE REACH THAT PERSON OR ENTITY.

My husband, child and I hope you take our comments into consideration.

Lisa Schwartz

April 05, 2009

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From: Sandy Parker [mailto:sandyjparker@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:24 PM
To: Jess Santamaria
Subject:

 

Dear Commissioner SantamariaThe residents of Pancho Way and El Paso Drive in Palm Beach Ranchettes will be coming before the board on Tuesday in reference to the paving of our two roads.  We are asking that you will please listen to all of us who get up to speak and hope that you will try and help us with our cause.  Thank you for any help you can give us.
 
Thank you,
Sandy Parker

April 05, 2009

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From: valerie9395@netscape.net [mailto:valerie9395@netscape.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:07 AM
To: George Webb; Maarquis@pbcgov.org; agreen@pbcgov.org; baaronso@pgcgov.org; Jess Santamaria; Karen Marcus; Shelley Vana; Steven Abrams
Subject:

 

We are writing you in reference to purposal reference the paving of Fargo Avenue from Arrowhead Dr to El Paso Dr. All properties West of Lyons Rd (Frontier)    

We live on the west end of El Paso Dr.  I have heard that someone has stated that the traffic for Discovery Key Elementry backs up all the way up and down our road and that Fargo is a main access road.  This is untrue.  We have lived in the area since 1984 and since the school has been built people do use El Paso as a drop off for their children.  Some do not even live in this area.  El Paso is mainly used from parties coming up off of Blanchette Rd which is a public access road.  Now that we have paved El Paso Dr and incurred the fees.  People that live on Fargo Rd are using El Paso as their access road to Blanchette.  If anyone should be given a break it should be the residents on El Paso Rd.   

As stated previously yes El Paso Rd is used as a drop off area.  No the traffic is not backed up all the way east to Blanchette and West to Fargo.   We feel that if the residents of Fargo Ave are wanting their road paved it should be at their expense not ours as we have paid / paved they way for them.     Sincerly Valerie & James Buckley

 

April 05, 2009

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From: Vikelity@aol.com [mailto:Vikelity@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:47 PM
To: Jeff Koons; Addie Greene; Karen Marcus; Burt Aaronson; Jess Santamaria; Shelley Vana
Subject: Road paving concerns for 4/7/09 meeting

My name is Kelly Breffle and I live on Pancho Way in the Palm Beach Ranchettes. I am writing this letter today to express my concerns and questions regarding the paving, or the not paving of our road. I am a teacher and therefore do not wish to take a day away from my students to attend this re-scheduled meeting.

It is my understanding that our two roads, El Paso and Pancho Way were approved for paving in 2004. We had more than the 51% needed on our petition. In 2006, city water was being put in our “development” and the county used the area alongside the El Paso canal as storage for the heavy equipment and large pipes that were being used in the project. Prior to the start of this project, we had collected money from the people living on these 2 roads and had brought in new shell rock to help maintain the road until the paving was done. When the heavy trucks and machinery began going up and down our road everyday, the road took a lot of wear and tear. We were told by someone in the water department that El Paso would be “fixed” when the project was completed. That never happened! We called and got the run around as far as who was exactly the correct person to contact and complain that our road was never fixed after the water mains were put in. We were finally told, after months of trying to get an answer, that the budget for that project was “closed” and there was no way they could get the required money to come in and fix the road! The county representative told us it was not their problem and the water company told us they weren’t paid any money to fix the road. We were stuck with having to do it ourselves!

In the meantime, we were thinking that soon our road would be paved and ultimately, road problem solved! Then we received the notice that the cost of paving the road was going up significantly. With the new “water assessment” we had just gained, my husband and I decided it was too much money. Several months later, we heard that the cost of materials needed for paving roads was going back down. I called the county and was told, in fact that, that was true. I was told on the phone that our road had at least the required 51% and that we should let them know that we were interested again, seeing that the price would be lower. Several people on our 2 roads called to let your office know that we were interested as a group to see what the new price of paving would be, but we NEVER received another petition from the county. Our neighbor, Sandy Parker, has been in contact with Mr. Rich and lately, Tanya, to get information to us as to what is happening with our roads. It seems as though there is a missing link somewhere in all of this, and I am confused as to why I am hearing that Fargo has been approved for paving, when they never even petitioned, and that our 2 roads have somehow been “dropped” without our knowledge. I feel we followed the protocol set forth by the county to pave these two roads, El Paso and Pancho Way. I feel we have been unfairly denied the opportunity for paving. I feel we have been neglected twice. Once, after our road was destroyed after the water mains were put in, and now, because we are being told that we were approved for road paving in 2004, but now there is no money. My question is this . . . .what happened to the money that was set aside from the county to pave these roads in 2004? Yes, we felt we could not afford to pave the road with the 300% plus increase in 2007, but initially, we petitioned and agreed to the price set up in 2004. I feel the few roads that originally petitioned for paving should be given the same consideration that our neighbors received to have their roads paved recently. In 2004, Palm Beach County agreed to pay 50% of the road paving project. The money WAS in your budget then, and it was not used for this project. Where is that money? We petitioned and agreed in 2004. Prices went up 3 years later! Why wasn’t our road even paved before 2007? Should we be neglected because the county wasn’t able to do the road paving project in a timely manner? Shouldn’t we receive the recognition for our initial agreement? I believe, in fairness, that we should! My letter is in hopes that you believe that too.

Any responses can be sent to

vikelity@aol.com

Sincerely,

Kelly L. Breffle
Palm Beach County Kindergarten Teacher
mom
wife
voter

April 03, 2009

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From: Kellie Kahl <kelliekahl@yahoo.com>

Date: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:28 PM

To: George Webb <GWebb@pbcgov.org>; Michael Marquis <MMarquis@pbcgov.org>; Addie Greene <AGreene@pbcgov.org>; Burt Aaronson <BAaronso@pbcgov.org>; Jeff  Koons <JKoons@pbcgov.org>; Jess Santamaria <JSantama@pbcgov.org>; Karen Marcus <KMarcus@pbcgov.org>; Shelley Vana <SVana@pbcgov.org>; Steven Abrams <SAbrams@pbcgov.org>

CC: kkahl@palmbeacheyeclinic.com <kkahl@palmbeacheyeclinic.com>

Subject:Palm Beach Ranchettes, Fargo Ave. paving project

April 3, 2009
Board of County Commissioners
Palm Beach County
301 N. Olive Ave.
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
Att: Commissioners
Re: The Paving of Fargo Ave. in
Palm Beach Ranchetts
We as property owners of Palm Beach Ranchetts, who have already had our roads paved at $7400.00 each, would like to voice our concerns regarding the proposed additional cost to said property owners of $3150.00 for the paving of Fargo Ave.
1. The property owners of Fargo Ave. have avoided the voting process for their road knowing about the paving project on East/West roads for several years. They feel that Fargo is an access road and should be paved at the expense of other Palm Beach Ranchette property owners or should be done for free. It seems only reasonable and fair that Fargo owners should pay equal expenses as all other propety owners of Palm Beach Ranchetts have already incurred and should not be charged anything additional to our current agreement of $7400.00.
2. Fargo Ave. property owners have NOT already paid $7400.00 for OUR roads, so why should we pay any amount even $1.00 for thier road?
3. This whoule project has been handeled unapproprately, sneaky & without the respect of other Palm Beach Ranchette property owners who already are paying $7400.00 for OUR share of OUR OWN road.
4. One thought was to block off Fargo Ave. as it is not an access road, we all can go out another direction & put this mess to rest. We really cannot use emergency services as a reason not to block it off because ther are many other ways into all roads in this neighborhood. Now that these other roads are paved, it is very easy & quick entry to all roads.
5. To use the school (Discovery Key) as a reason for all other property owners to absorb this $3150.00 is rediculous. We have been here in Palm Beach Ranchetts since 1986 and feel that our neighborhood should NOT be a “shortcut” for outside residents to come in to take thier children to school.

6. This whole Palm Beach Ranchetts road project has caused significant arguments, disagreements & unecessary turmoil amoung long time neighbors and friends.

 

 
We do not believe that most property owners in this neighborhood have another $3150.00 to put out of thier pockets after recently putting out $12,000.00 for water and $7400.00 for our own roads. Please consider these above concerns duirng your meeting that has been scheduled when most of us are working to pay for the current fees and cannot attend the meeting.
 
 
Kerry & Kellie Kahl
9435 Pinto Drive
Lake Worth (Palm Beach Ranchetts), FL 33467

 

April 03, 2009

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 From:Czechmate52@aol.com <Czechmate52@aol.com>

Date: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:41 PM 
 

 

To: George Webb <GWebb@pbcgov.org>; Michael Marquis <MMarquis@pbcgov.org>

CC: Addie Greene <AGreene@pbcgov.org>; Jess Santamaria <JSantama@pbcgov.org>; Karen Marcus <KMarcus@pbcgov.org>; Shelley Vana <SVana@pbcgov.org>; Steven Abrams <SAbrams@pbcgov.org>

Subject: Paving of Fargo NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 

 
 
 

 


NO, NO, NO, We are not in favor of paving & paying a dime for Fargo Ave.

We are not in favor of us not living on Fargo Ave. paying to have it paved. We paid for paving our own road. Years ago we helped pay for Blanchette Tr. & Palomino.  We can not afford to pay for any more roads. We don’t need to use Fargo as an access road, we can use Frontier or Blanchette. The people on Fargo use our newly paved road as an access road, they didn’t help pay for our road! If they want their road (Fargo) paved let them pay for it themselves, just like we have to do for our road!
Thank you for listening.
Andre & Sally Cima
9227 Pinto Dr
Lake Worth, FL 33467

April 03, 2009

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From: C. Berger <cberg_er@yahoo.com>

Date: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:02 PM

To: George Webb <GWebb@pbcgov.org>; Michael Marquis <MMarquis@pbcgov.org>; Addie Greene <AGreene@pbcgov.org>; Burt Aaronson <BAaronso@pbcgov.org>; Jeff  Koons <JKoons@pbcgov.org>; Jess Santamaria <JSantama@pbcgov.org>; Karen Marcus <KMarcus@pbcgov.org>; Shelley Vana <SVana@pbcgov.org>; Steven Abrams <SAbrams@pbcgov.org>

Subject: Ranchettes Paving

RE:  regarding potential road paving projects in the Palm Beach Ranchettes, particularly Fargo Avenue–
        page 35 PBC agenda meeting for April 7th, 2009

Dear Commissioners:

We on Pinto, El Paso,  and Rodeo have just paid $7400.00 for paving of our streets.  Fargo is only one of three access roads for our homes. We prefer to use Lyons/Frontier Road or go east to Blanchette .  It is unfair to ask us to pay for Fargo when the residents on Fargo will not pay the initial amount that we paid.    Most of the school traffic uses Lyons/Frontier,  NOT Fargo.  Please ask the residents on Fargo to pay their fair share.  Thank you.

Carol Berger
9434 Pinto Dr.

April 3, 2009

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From: Andrew F. Schaller <aschaller@pbfe.com>

Date: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:47 am

 

To: Robert Weisman <RWeisman@pbcgov.org>

CC: George Webb <GWebb@pbcgov.org>; Jess Santamaria <JSantama@pbcgov.org>

Subject:

 

Mr. Weisman,

I realize my request may have been too broad.  I would like to refine it
down to:

Any emails to and from you to Engineering and or the Commissioners, letters
and or emails to you and or from you to residents concerning Fargo Avenue
and any other road in the Ranchettes since the BCC December 2006 meeting.

I hope this is more reasonable request on short notice.

Thank you.

Andy Schaller

—–Original Message—–
From: Andrew F. Schaller [mailto:aschaller@pbfe.com]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:47 AM
To: ‘Robert Weisman’
Cc: ‘GWebb@pbcgov.org’; ‘jsantama@pbcgov.org’
Subject:

Mr.Weisman,

I am formally requesting all correspondence to and from Palm Beach County,
all departments, as they relate to Fargo Avenue and any other road in The
Palm Beach Ranchettes from the December 2006 BCC Meeting to date.

As you know, this matter comes before the BCC on April 7, 2009 at 9:30 am. I
understand this is short notice but please forward these materials as soon
as possible.

Thank you.

Andy Schaller